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“That’s Not the Way to Argue”

not the way to argue

These are the words uttered by my philosophy professor more than three decades ago and had been reverberating in my mind whenever I discuss any topic with another person. As simple as it is, I keep these words in mind for a couple of reasons.

First, that I may be wary lest I commit fallacious arguments. Fallacious arguments are not readily recognizable especially to the ignorant of the fallacies of relevance. Fallacious reasoning essentially means nothing, even if a man appears to be winning in an argument. Winning an argument fallaciously is a hogwash. He may win the argument (or at least he thinks he does) but the truth is not in within his reach.

Secondly, these words also help me become vigilant. It would keep me on my toes whenever I listen to an argument in any form, whether it is in a context of a debate, a privileged speech or even a homily. When I listen, it is more often due to want of learning. I do not wish to overlook a person committing one or more of those fallacies of relevance.

Atheism is one of the issues that I hear argued about lately. In support to this belief, some would argue philosophically, others would demand empirical evidences for God’s existence, others argue on the grounds of the presence of evil and suffering.

Some on the other hand, reject theism in the light of the lifestyles of the ‘believers’ in God. The latter’s objectionable and unethical practices become a common arguments for the irrelevance of having faith in God. History, for instance, reveals that most of the cruelest acts against humanity were done in the guise of religion. Among Catholicism, there was the Inquisition, a part of the Period of the Dark Ages when the ‘Heretics’, those who do reject some of the Roman Catholic Dogmas, were hunted down and are tortured to denouncing their beliefs. Thus many people, referring to this dark period of history, would state their detest against belief in a god or gods.

In his letter to Titus, a minister of a church in the island of Crete in the Mediterranean Sea, Paul of Tarsus made a commentary regarding the situation of Christianity in that region. He said,

“They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny him.”

Paul addressed these words to a minister whose church was in the midst of society where immorality, greed and vile values are rampant. In that society, there doesn’t seem to be a distinction between right and wrong. Everyone does whatever he pleases, and the Christians were no exceptions.

In his other letter, this time to the church in Rome, Paul again uttered a similar comment when he said the following words to describe many Jews,

But if you bear the name “Jew” and rely upon the Law and boast in God, and know His will and approve the things that are essential, being instructed out of the Law, and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness, a corrector of the foolish, a teacher of the immature, having in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and of the truth, you, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that one shall not steal, do you steal? You who say that one should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in the Law, through your breaking the Law, do you dishonor God? For “the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you”.

What then could be the value of being a ‘believer’ in God if one’s moral values does not reflect the teachings of the God he believes in? If the morality of the Christians were not different from that of the ‘outsiders’ or even the ‘atheists’, what then is the function of having faith in God. Is it to control other people, like in the times of the dark ages? Is it to take advantage of people by consoling them with the thought that God never sleeps and sees all the wickedness in this world and that eventually he will punish the wicked? No wonder that to some people religion is referred to as ‘the opium of the people”.

With a morality that do not conform to the teachings of the God, one might as well throw away the idea of theism. Many people was converted to atheism for witnessing the depraved morality of many Christians, especially those of religious and church leaders. These Christians live as if there is actually no God. Their lifestyle was thus construed to be a ‘proof’ that having faith in God is irrelevant, and that a religion, including Christianity, never does improve man’s values. One might as well be an unbeliever, for a good, kind atheist is more precious to the society than a morally depraved theist.

In the latter part of His Sermon on the Mount, Jesus the Christ said:

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.”

With these words, Jesus recognizes the fact that there will be people who would profess faith in Him. He warns them, therefore, to be a believer in a real sense of the word. The objectionable acts of the professing Christians never nullifies the existence of God. It only proves that there would be hypocrites.

Would you say that there is no God because of the presence of evil believers? That’s not the way to argue.

7 comments
Basilio Santos Jr
Basilio Santos Jr

From the point of view of one who bases his beliefs from the Bible, I say that salvation is by grace (unmerited favor), it is a free gift from God. None is saved by works, lest he boast that deserves it. Salvation can be gotten by putting faith in Jesus. A good atheist who has no faith in Jesus is, therefore, not saved, and a 'Christian' who willfully, consistently disobeys God's word may not be a true believer at all, for not all who call him "Lord. Lord" will be saved.

Jeric Marquez
Jeric Marquez

@Basilio Santos Jr So what will happen to those who had no opportunity to know Jesus, will they be saved? Say I grew up in a Moslem faith and since thats all the faith I know and I strongly believe in it because it was sown deep in my psyche since birth. Psychologically I have no choice. Just like you who was raised in the Christian faith, it is already embedded in your body and soul. Psychologically, were all products of our own environment. However, were both good persons and practices what our faith dictates us. Were both virtuos and compassionate. In short, were both good Christians and Moslems. 

What will happen to me? Will I be saved? If you say NO why? If you say NO, what happens to god being loving and merciful? If he will forsake because of things beyond my control, then he is a vengeful god. I dont think so.

Basilio Santos Jr
Basilio Santos Jr

@Jeric Marquez@Basilio Santos Jr

See this scenario: A Christian (or a Muslim) never talk of his faith to his kids. So his kids failed talk to their kids about faith in God (or Allah), and so on to the next generations. Whose fault is it that his descendants have not heard of God (or Allah). For this very reason, parents ought to instruct their kids about faith.

Those who never heard of Jesus are not saved. That is why Christians are mandated to share the good news of salvation. If a person can be saved even without hearing of the Savior, then there is no need to talk of the Savior. God is a loving God indeed, but men are made responsible for their actions (an inaction) as well as the consequences of their actions (or inaction).

Basilio Santos Jr
Basilio Santos Jr

@Jeric Marquez@Basilio Santos Jr

There are more than just two kinds of people who will be judged. By bifurcation, you mentioned a good Buddhist (by this I presume that you mean any good person who do not believe in Jesus) and a bad Christian. There is a third kind: A Christian who submits to God's will.

Jeric Marquez
Jeric Marquez

@Basilio Santos Jr so at the end of days, there are 2 persons facing judgement; one is a good buddhist and another a really bad christian who does not really practice his faith but he's a christian. What do you think God will do? 

Jeric Marquez
Jeric Marquez

What is the will of the father? I am sure it is about love, kindness, humility and all the good virtues. Right? What do you think will happen to me if I am an atheist but I certainly and unequivocally practice those virtues? Will I fare higher in the face of God than those Christians that don't do those virtues at all? 

NorthernStar
NorthernStar

@Jeric Marquez  i think God has written his will in the Bible. for anyone to presume anything is burdened with a great responsibility, as it will always stir up reactions of all kind.

the commandments left to us by Jesus himself where simple. the commandments left by our Father was simple. it is man who complicates such.

questions and answers are always meant to be studied. not battled. the answer lies in the Word. read it and ponder. ask questions, not challenge them. believe and know in your heart. not presume and become righteous.

just a thought.


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